The Air Element (quick information) (2024)

Stormblood said:

Ghost in the Machine said:

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You should already know aither is the source of all elements, so I don't understand your confusion. It's normal for aither to have every property the four elements have. Gravity is also one of the fundamental forces, different from electromagnetism and from the atomic forces (strong and weak). Just because X and Y have something in common, it doesn't mean that X = Y. Two triangles may have three angles, but the angles may differ in degree, even if they're sum remains the same. The sides will also have different lengths, thus the two triangles will be different.

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Take into account that electrons have negative polarity and protons positive polarities. So they're more like feminine and masculine parts of the soul respectively. Neutrons are like the middle/4th chakra. At the atomic level, you're no longer working with elements but with deeper forces underlining the elements. I'm not saying you're assumption for air is incorrect. I'm just saying it's only partially correct. Let's not see this in black and white.

The way you explained your reasons for Uranus and Mercury answers itself. "They share", "they have similarities", but they're not the same. You may see them as mathematical sets that intersect. But we're oversimplying here, as the picture is much more complex than that. The more we advance, the better we see the picture and it's details. I'm amazed and astonished whenever I think about how the Gods and the Supreme God (Father Satan) must understand the deeper mechanics of the universe. It's always interesting when we SS discuss about it and learn from each other's insights. I'm aware I'm not all-knowing and that omniscience doesn't exist, and I'm still learning like everyone else here. My path doesn't come without my share of mistakes and incorrect assumptions.

I see rulerships and exaltments as synergy, while detriments and falls like contrasting energies. If you notice, except the Sun, every planet either co-rules, has double rulership and/or is exalted in signs that have different elements. For example, Mars spans three signs of three different elements (fire, water and earth) and Venus does too (earth, air, water). What do you see them like?

P.S. It's nice for once to have a conversation where no-one immediately feels attacked and goes on the defensive.

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You're right I seem to have completely forgotten about the aspects to Aether, if I'm honest I don't focus on it as a primary like I do the other elements so I think I've been subconsciously treating it more as an outcast of sorts when really it's the foundation of everything. I've even said this many times but I think it was in a relaying fashion and not a means that I thoroughly took in through all it's depths. I'll have to keep note of paying more attention to it and it's factors overall.

The electron polarity you've stated too makes sense in comparison of the feminine and masculine and that too in the spiritual aspect does have a lot of underlying obscure complexities that tie into a multitude of other things. In my perception I think I may have narrowed the tunnel too much, the information I attain is very generalized because I often look at the whole picture and very seldom am I able to get the minute details or usually I don't dwell on them because this is where there is far too much room for misinterpretations and mistakes in information. For these matters I much prefer actual written research and study which can broaden my understanding further.

Also I really like your analogy to the triangles, their angles and overall sum, this is very true and I'm actually impressed to read something so esoteric from a fellow SS. And again with the planets, yes I based this upon feel and a general bias of likenesses, because it just seems in some ways the universe has a lot of connections to other related entities. You're right though in that there is multiple other factors and complexities of deeper influences that can have a hand in specified matters. My general focus kind of blinds me to the existence of these deeper existential things and I'll have to pay more attention to this.

Also your regards to the planets with synergies and contrasting energies is exactly what I was talking about. In fact my original written post to you before I deleted it and decided to rewrite it (I do this a lot to fix and avoid potential misinformation, inaccuracies, uncertainties or anything related in what I write) was going to dive much further in this, but I stated it too much as fact when it's more theory. So in the safe boundaries of theory I'm comfortable in sharing that I feel the exact way you do regarding the planets exaltations and falls, etc with synergies and contrasts.

Now I'm going to clarify first I am never saying that the planets only rule/charge or are of only one element, it might have seemed that way but that's not what I meant, they very clearly can be more than one. In regards to what you've stated this was also why I felt Mercury and Uranus were of the air element in some manner. My belief is that the factors of a sign, whether this is element, properties, rulerships, influences, etc again with the supposed 'likeness law' of the universe, coincide with planets of the same or similar aspects/properties. And when they are in a sign where the properties, element, aspects contrast the planet's own in some way than this is the contrast of energies which weakens the planet's influence, thus it's power, etc.

For example, Mercury rules Gemini and Virgo, an air sign and an earth sign respectively and Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, another air sign. These signs are of the properties, aspects, elements, etc that Mercury's energies rule over, thus this is the synergy application where the double of energy influences empowers the whole, thus the planet's influences are stronger. Mercury is weakened in Sagittarius, leo and pisces, two fire signs and a water sign. These signs greatly oppose Mercury's controlled and logical aspects as these signs are of emotion, wild energies, properties and aspects that counter the planet's energies and they are of the elements that Mercury seems to have very little to nothing to do with, so they are upsetting forces that ruin the balance.

Jupiter as well of which seems to have heavy aspects and properties with Fire, Water and Aether (This is also why I think it's a very beneficial planet as these 3 are very balanced elements together that counter one another's negative influences). This is why it is empowered with the synergies of Sagittarius, Pisces and Cancer, a fire sign and two water signs and why it is weakened in Gemini, Virgo and Capricorn, an air sign and two earth signs, their elements and properties contrast and oppose what makes up the energies and influences of the planet.

And again with Uranus, it's properties and rulerships cater to the air and water element, it is empowered in Aquarius and Scorpio an air and water sign and is weakened in Taurus and Leo, an earth and fire sign. They are empowered and strengthened by what they are of, the double enforced and weakened by what they are not. These are the connections that enforces my feelings upon what is what and how something works, etc, etc. Connections link to other connections in my gathering of knowledge from the akasha and this enforces a definitive feel of 'knowing' that is constructed from the whole of the picture. This is not perfect but the more I come across, the more pieces that seem to fit together to form some kind of conclusive assessment.

I definitely don't claim to know all and certainly don't hold to my beliefs if I'm proven wrong or incorrect as I can definitely make mistakes, but for the most part if I strongly feel like the information I know is accurate then more often than not, especially as of late as I've grown more advanced, it's proven such, not just by members of which information I've shared over the years has vastly helped them but also by some clergy. I've said it many times but when I say I do zero research on what I share I mean I do zero research. If on any account I come across small facts and pieces of information that are then able to provide the attainment of knowledge on a whole other spectrum.

Intuition is a very strange ability but it's a double-edged sword. I used to throw every little thing out there like it was solid fact but nowadays I'm 666% more careful with what I say. It has to make sense, it has to have a foundation, some sort of strong basis, and it has to work before I share it. In any event I do thoroughly enjoy research and reading and the more I come to know through this and through other more informed members the better I'm able to make connections and suddenly 'know' other things.

I made a thread explaining void meditation, the ins and outs to how it works, what it does and why... all I did one day to get all of that information was read a small article on outer space. How accurate it actually is? I don't have a solid value... but because it feels strongly accurate, makes sense, has a foundation and works... it likely holds to something.

Ultimately I'm a stubborn individual as per just who I am, but I remain open to change, I am always willing to change at the end of the day and force myself to look at things objectively when I need to. So overall I do love being corrected because I want to know truth and I want to share truth. In truth there is power and strength in every form, and these are things I thoroughly value.

I also appreciate the absence of hostility in discussion like this. We're not here to hurt each others feelings, as a community unit our goal is to help everyone as a whole and I wouldn't be where I am if I didn't have anyone to correct me when I was wrong or to direct me when I was misguided. When I feel conflicted with something or in disagreement I usually give myself time to digest it to make a proper and full-formed judgement call, sometimes it can take a lot of time even. Based upon how accurate the information given is, I could remain holding to what I feel or change over in agreement.

And with that, as an example, I will say honestly with no hard feelings or hostility that I still feel strongly that Uranus and Mercury are of the air element in some form or other. We can of course continue to discuss further.